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Not Entitled To Your Own Facts, Senator Kamala Harris

The night of the debate between current Vice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris, was a night unlike any other. At a key moment after Kamala continued to volley “facts” at Trump and Pence, in an attempt to sway political views, Mike Pence made this incredible statement to Kamala Harris, “You’re entitled to your own opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts.” This lit a fire for me. At that moment, I was determined to fact check both of them to ensure I wasn’t being duped, yet again by inaccurate assertions, bold exaggerations and flat out lies. And then this happened….

Kamala said, “I’m so glad we went through a little history lesson, let’s do that a little more.” She then brings up Abraham Lincoln in 1864 and stated that he was one of Trump’s political heroes and then assumed correctly that he was one of Mike Pence’s political heroes, which Pence confirmed. She continued on to say, “Abraham Lincoln was up for reelection and it was 27 days before the election, and a seat became open on the United States Supreme Court. Abraham Lincoln’s party was in charge not only of the White House, but the Senate, but HONEST ABE said ‘it’s not the right thing to do. The American people deserve to make the decision about who will be the next President of the United States, and then that person can select who will serve for a lifetime.'”1

You’re entitled to your own opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts. – Vice President Mike Pence (spoken to Senator Kamala Harris)2

The fact that Kamala said every last word here is undisputed. But is what she said, inaccurate, an exaggeration or just a flat out lie?

What does the Media have to say about Kamala’s “history lesson”?

She could have been more honest while quoting Abe. – New York Post3
Kamala’s…little history lesson…wasn’t exactly true. – Washington Post4
I’ve never seen anything like that quote in all my 36 years of Lincoln research. – Michael Burlingame, the distinguished chair in Lincoln studies at the University of Illinois-Springfield5
I don’t think there is a definite answer… for why Lincoln waited – Stephen E Maizlish, a historian at the University of Texas-Arlington and biographer of Chase.6
Anecdotal response from historian and comedy fanatic Michael Beschloss. He makes a claim but lacks evidence.7

The fact is, Kamala Harris attributed a statement to Abraham Lincoln that is not historically recorded. Michael Beschloss suggests support for Kamala’s statement, but has followed up with no evidence. To date, what she said does not exist in any of the records attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Let me put it in another way. Lincoln did not say what Kamala said he did. Why did she do it? You’d have to ask her – I’m not going to put words into her mouth. But the result supports media statements that suggests that Trump should look bad for submitting a name for the open Supreme Court seat while he is in the last several months of this term of his presidency. Plain and simple – Mike Pence told her that she was “not entitled to your own facts” and she produced her own facts anyway and pawned those imaginary words as truth to the American public. Seems to be a common thread. Stay tuned for more of these postings…

Additional notes on this subject regarding the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice:

Senate is required to be in session for the President of the United States to nominate a Supreme Court Justice.

How are Supreme Court Justices selected? – The President nominates someone for a vacancy on the Court and the Senate votes to confirm the nominee, which requires a simple majority. In this way, both the Executive and Legislative Branches of the federal government have a voice in the composition of the Supreme Court.8

Abraham Lincoln could not actually nominate anyone until after the election… because the senate was not in session, due to the fact that it had adjourned on July 4th, 1864. John Marshall died July 6, 1864. Senate was not back in session until December 5th, 1864 9 which was after the election held on November 8, 1864.10. Kamala stated that Abraham Lincoln was waiting, “because it was the right thing to do.” Abraham had not choice as the senate was out of session. Senate let out, two days later the Chief Justice died, the election happened and then the senate went back into session. But make no mistake, the day after the senate session began, not only was the replacement for Roger Brook Taney appointed by Abraham, but also approved by the senate.

CongressSessionBegin DateAdjourn Date
382Dec 5, 1864Mar 3, 1865
 1Dec 7, 1863Jul 4, 1864
 SMar 4, 1863Mar 14, 1863
Session 1 was adjourned from July 4th, 1864 and Session 2 did not commence until December 5th, 1864. 11

“Honest Abe,” as Kamala put him – had already appointed 4 Supreme Court Justices during the Civil War. 12After the election, which he won the electoral vote 212-21 and 55% of the popular vote, Lincoln did appoint the 5th Supreme Court Justice who replaced Roger Taney.

One other note. In the memory of Ruth Bader Ginsburg – Trump is elected for 4 years as President of the United States, not for 3 years.

Video of Ruth Bader Ginsburg 13

Appointed Justices by Abraham Lincoln:

NOAH HAYNES SWAYNE, Associate Justice
Born December 7, 1804; died June 8, 1884
Party — Republican
Home State — Ohio
Appointed By — Abraham Lincoln
Replaced — John McLean
Oath Taken — January 27, 1862
Resigned Office — January 24, 1881

SAMUEL FREEMAN MILLER, Associate Justice
Born April 5, 1816; died October 13, 1890
Party — Republican
Home State — Iowa
Appointed By — Abraham Lincoln
Replaced — Peter Daniel
Oath Taken — July 21, 1862
Died in Office — October 13, 1890

DAVID DAVIS, Associate Justice
Born March 9, 1815; died June 26, 1886
Party — Republican
Home State — Illinois
Appointed By — Abraham Lincoln
Replaced — John Campbell
Oath Taken — December 10, 1862
Resigned Office — March 4, 1877

STEPHEN JOHNSON FIELD, Associate Justice
Born November 4, 1816; died April 9, 1899
Party — Democrat
Home State — California
Appointed By — Abraham Lincoln
Oath Taken — May 20, 1863
Resigned Office — December 1, 1897

SALMON PORTLAND CHASE, Chief Justice
Born January 13, 1808; died May 7, 1873
Party — Republican
Home State — Ohio
Appointed By — Abraham Lincoln (on December 6, 1864)
Replaced — Roger Brooke Taney
Oath Taken — December 15, 1864
Died in Office — May 7, 1873

  1. https://nypost.com/2020/10/09/kamala-harris-abraham-lincoln-quote-wasnt-true-historians/
  2. Previously quote attributed to – Daniel Patrick Moynihan https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/63402-you-are-entitled-to-your-opinion-but-you-are-not
  3. https://nypost.com/2020/10/09/kamala-harris-abraham-lincoln-quote-wasnt-true-historians/
  4. https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/10/08/lincoln-supreme-court-kamala-harris/
  5. https://www.statesman.com/news/20201008/in-context-kamala-harris-jumped-to-conclusions-about-lincolnrsquos-delayed-supreme-court-nomination
  6. https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/08/fact-checking-2020-vice-presidential-debate-kamala/
  7. https://publish.twitter.com/?url=https://twitter.com/BeschlossDC/status/1314025734768386049
  8. https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/faq_general.aspx#:~:text=How%20are%20Supreme%20Court%20Justices,composition%20of%20the%20Supreme%20Court
  9. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/DatesofSessionsofCongress.htm
  10. https://www.britannica.com/event/United-States-presidential-election-of-1864
  11. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/DatesofSessionsofCongress.htm
  12. http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/education/supreme.htm
  13. https://youtu.be/29ot23_lr50

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